tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-233033210838592831.post8573206138474186614..comments2020-03-28T06:27:50.033-07:00Comments on Daylight between America and Israel: not even "separate but equal"Clif Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17561437041148734569noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-233033210838592831.post-45181814723204882132010-11-20T16:49:57.364-08:002010-11-20T16:49:57.364-08:00Where I am, in Phoenix, AZ, high schools and eleme...Where I am, in Phoenix, AZ, high schools and elementry schools have naturally seggregated three ways: Hispanic, African-American, and white. In high schools magnate programs, offering special courses to attract whites into the other schools, do not really work. So a predominately black school has a flying program--you can actually get a pilot's license at the end of the course, if you pass the test flight. While some whites outside the school boundary attended for that benefit, they segregated themselves within the school (perhaps helped by locals), and only a few "whites" traveled the distance for the pilot program in any case.<br /><br />It is my understanding that similar clumping, post busing, has happened in many parts of the nation. Arab and Jew self clumping will persist in Israel in the best of circumstances. That does not have to mean, however, a rabid racism. When the State abandons support for racial segregation, segregation will almost certainly continue; but the ferocity of racism can thereby be dampened. We cannot make people like one another, or even respect one another. We can, though, refuse to nuture their private race wars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-233033210838592831.post-51137153023590389252010-11-20T08:59:57.550-08:002010-11-20T08:59:57.550-08:00Interesting point about segregation, Greg. Here in...Interesting point about segregation, Greg. Here in my community, one of the first to start busing kids, the school in the African-American part of town was closed as a result because the kids were all "exported", nobody wanted to be "imported". There have been calls in recent years to re-open a school in the same area and let the racial profile of students fall where it may - meaning it would be all African-American as before.Clif Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561437041148734569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-233033210838592831.post-60119930747823090232010-11-19T21:59:55.208-08:002010-11-19T21:59:55.208-08:00In Oslo days the Israelis were considering constru...In Oslo days the Israelis were considering construction of a raised highway linking Gaza and the West Bank, with no off points save in Palestinian territory. The hatred and fear was enormous even before the 2nd intifata. It exists on both sides, and has to be faced, somehow.<br /><br />Consider that, 50 plus years after Brown v. Board of Education, American schools are actually, overall, more segregated than in 1950. The Israeli right is acting on this "natural racial clumping." While I think some clumping is inevitable, I do not think it need lead to violence. We are afraid of ourselves, and the Israeli/Palestine conflict brings that fear to a boil. I have no solution, but do believe we must face what we, whatever we you will, have done, and could still do again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com